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We're allowed youtube at work again. I'm so happy!
Allen Ginsberg (June 3, 1926 – April 5, 1997) was an American poet and one of the leading figures of the Beat Generation in the 1950s. He vigorously opposed militarism, materialism and sexual repression.

Ginsberg had an individualistic style that's easily identified as Ginsbergian. "Howl" came out during a potentially hostile literary environment less welcoming to poetry outside of tradition; there was a renewed focus on form and structure among academic poets and critics partly inspired by New Criticism. Consequently, Ginsberg often had to defend his choice to break away from traditional poetic structure, often citing Williams, Pound, and Whitman as precursors.

I am not adding 'Howl' today as it is probably one of my favourite pieces of his but I wanted to focus on one of his lesser known works.


A Supermarket in California

What thoughts I have of you tonight, Walt Whitman, for I walked down the
streets under the trees with a headache self-conscious looking at the full moon.

In my hungry fatigue, and shopping for images, I went into the neon fruit
supermarket, dreaming of your enumerations!
What peaches and what penumbras! Whole families shopping at night! Aisles
full of husbands! Wives in the avocados, babies in the tomatoes! --- and you,
Garcia Lorca, what were you doing down by the watermelons?
I saw you, Walt Whitman, childless, lonely old grubber, poking among the
meats in the refrigerator and eyeing the grocery boys.
I heard you asking questions of each: Who killed the pork chops? What price
bananas? Are you my Angel?
I wandered in and out of the brilliant stacks of cans following you, and
followed in my imagination by the store detective.
We strode down the open corridors together in our solitary fancy tasting
artichokes, possessing every frozen delicacy, and never passing the cashier.
Where are we going, Walt Whitman? The doors close in an hour. Which way does
your beard point tonight?
(I touch your book and dream of our odyssey in the supermarket and feel
absurd.)
Will we walk all night through solitary streets? The trees add shade to
shade, lights out in the houses, we'll both be lonely.
Will we stroll dreaming of the lost America of love past blue automobiles in
driveways, home to our silent cottage?
Ah, dear father, graybeard, lonely old courage-teacher, what America did you
have when Charon quit poling his ferry and you got out on a smoking bank and
stood watching the boat disappear on the black waters of Lethe?
(grins) yes which is a nice change from a 'love poem'. He sees her as she is yet he writes about her with such affection.
John Frederick Nims (November 20, 1913 Muskegon, Michigan - January 13, 1999 in Chicago, Illinois) was an American poet and academic.

I'm posting this because I love it's honesty. It is not an idealised image of love but a real one with revealed flaws. I also feel a certain empathy with the subject of the poem as I'm quite clumsy in real life.

Love Poem

My clumsiest dear, whose hands shipwreck vases,
At whose quick touch all glasses chip and ring,
Whose palms are bulls in china, burs in linen,
And have no cunning with any soft thing

Except all ill-at-ease fidgeting people:
The refugee uncertain at the door
You make at home; deftly you steady
The drunk clambering on his undulant floor.

Unpredictable dear, the taxi drivers' terror,
Shrinking from far headlights pale as a dime
Yet leaping before apopleptic streetcars—
Misfit in any space. And never on time.

A wrench in clocks and the solar system. Only
With words and people and love you move at ease;
In traffic of wit expertly maneuver
And keep us, all devotion, at your knees.

Forgetting your coffee spreading on our flannel,
Your lipstick grinning on our coat,
So gaily in love's unbreakable heaven
Our souls on glory of spilt bourbon float.

Be with me, darling, early and late. Smash glasses—
I will study wry music for your sake.
For should your hands drop white and empty
All the toys of the world would break.
Thanks Yas, I love her style. She's got a way with imagery.
My featured poem is by Anne Sexton, a Pulitzer Prize winning poet.

Themes of her poetry include her suicidal tendencies, long battle against depression and various intimate details from her private life, including her relationships with her husband and children.

For My Lover, Returning To His Wife by Anne Sexton


She is all there.
She was melted carefully down for you
and cast up from your childhood,
cast up from your one hundred favorite aggies.
She has always been there, my darling.
She is, in fact, exquisite.
Fireworks in the dull middle of February
and as real as a cast-iron pot.
Let's face it, I have been momentary.
A luxury. A bright red sloop in the harbor.
My hair rising like smoke from the car window.
Littleneck clams out of season.
She is more than that. She is your have to have,
has grown you your practical your tropical growth.
This is not an experiment. She is all harmony.
She sees to oars and oarlocks for the dinghy,
has placed wild flowers at the window at breakfast,
sat by the potter's wheel at midday,
set forth three children under the moon,
three cherubs drawn by Michelangelo,
done this with her legs spread out
in the terrible months in the chapel.
If you glance up, the children are there
like delicate balloons resting on the ceiling.
She has also carried each one down the hall
after supper, their heads privately bent,
two legs protesting, person to person,
her face flushed with a song and their little sleep.
I give you back your heart.
I give you permission --
for the fuse inside her, throbbing
angrily in the dirt, for the bitch in her
and the burying of her wound --
for the burying of her small red wound alive --
for the pale flickering flare under her ribs,
for the drunken sailor who waits in her left pulse,
for the mother's knee, for the stocking,
for the garter belt, for the call --
the curious call
when you will burrow in arms and breasts
and tug at the orange ribbon in her hair
and answer the call, the curious call.
She is so naked and singular
She is the sum of yourself and your dream.
Climb her like a monument, step after step.
She is solid.
As for me, I am a watercolor.
I wash off.
Gav, I think the comments on the site are not working properly.My new poem has 2 actual comment but when you look at it in the story list it says 3.
One of my pet peeves is when someone creates a character who is totally unbelievable without any flaws or someone who is too whiny. As someone who writes from a first person perspective I find character layering very important. Human beings are complex creatures and they should be portrayed in fiction as such.

It's called a one-dimensional character.
I was reading a free book off kindle and they did the whole thing in a passive voice. I got to about page 10 and deleted it off my kindle. My problem was that I didn't give a flying fig for the protaganist or anyone else in the novel because I wasn't engaged at all. If ever I could do a 'how not to write a book' guide I'd point that book out.
Hot guy at work just caught me silent singing behind my monitor(cringe). moment
I'm going to use a pen name for my more adult pieces which I plan to self -publish soon,.It's a play on words on my mother's maiden name and my second name. I will use my real name for my other writing.
I've been inpsired recently to write a piece on a jazz musician so scoured the internet and found this. Fits my theme of music conquering the race divide in that time

Today I feel sad because I lost something irreplaceable.
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I won't dumb down anything I took the time and energy to write for someone to get mad because he/she doesn't know what a word or phrase means.


Brava! Me too! I learnt a lot of new words and phrases from reading that I use in my writing. Anyways it's much easier now days to find out meanings of words and phrases. I used to have to get the actual dictionary out(it was huge) when I was younger. There was no google search.
Green Tea with Pineapple & Grapefruit. It's divine. I'm really loving green tea at the moment.
I'm a voracious reader. I always have my nose in my kindle(smiles). I think reading is a huge influence on writing for certain things like vocabulary,writing styes,certain ideas etc. The type of books one reads are going to influence the type of stories you write. When I'm writing in a certain genre I buy some books in that genre to help me write. I find that I can see where I'm going wrong with a storyline based on what I'm reading of theirs.
yeah lol...I have another 290something forum posts until I get my forum guru badge
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It makes me ashamed to be a fellow human being!


Hmmm...that's a bit extreme...yeah, I didn't realize how bad it was, but the reports seem to be worse and worse from what I hear from the news and people I know on FB who live over there...

Go use it as inspiration for a poem...try to find some good in all this...well, I think I commented one time that I have to look at the bad things that happen to me as inspiration for a story or a poem...

Just trying to find some semblance of reason for stuff that happens around me...I know it's not always much consolation, but it's something...


There is some good in this. As usual decent people find a way to do something good. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14456857
I'm appalled and disgusted by these looting rioters in London, Bristol,Birmingham and Leeds. The damage has been devastating and this thuggary needs to stop. It makes me ashamed to be a fellow human being!
I use a few themes but I tend to try use things that are relevant to me to help them be more authentic. I particular identify with themes of stress, being lost, secrets and sadness so my more serious pieces will have these themes.